Gypsy Sam

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  Christian Social Influence Continues to Decrease

  by fulltimestudent in

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  2. current

  a popular sydney news reader died this week (of cancer, at age 73).

  the news reports from a number of sources were uniform in praising the man, both professionally and for his human qualities.. and, the obituaries all mentioned his partner:.

  ian ross and partner gray bolte at ross farewell from seven news in 2009. photo: courtesy of seven.

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  Gypsy Sam

  I wish there was a"like" button for your post LisaRose :)
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  More WT Propaganda: 10 Year Old Children Should Get Baptized!

  by Oubliette in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just caught this in an upcoming study article which will be "studied" in the congregations the week of 11/18-24/13:.

  he and his wife were elated when their eldest daughter, age ten, told them that she loved her parents, loved the brothers and sisters, and loved jehovah very much.

  she said that she wanted to dedicate her life to jehovah and get baptized.

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  Gypsy Sam

  Bttt
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  Why JW Child Raising Fails

  by metatron in

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  http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/05/parents-political-beliefs/361462/.

  makes sense.

  i've observed a lot of this reaction myself.

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  My Experience and how I finally let myself see the truth

  by OneEyedJoe in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  first off - for those lurkers who feel guilty just for being on this site and reading this (even if you don't read any further, as it is your right to choose that course) i want you to know that you're not alone in what you're going through or in what you are feeling.

  if you read on, i hope my experience may be of some small help to you.. this may be long, but i'll try to organize it in a way that doesn't make it painful to read.

  to start, i feel it is most beneficial if i'm upfront and honest with my goals from posting this, which are (in order of the degree to which they motivated me):.

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  Gypsy Sam

  Also, welcome to goingthroughtthemotions. Feel free to start a new thread and share your story.

  lots of newbies! :)
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  My Elderette is returning today to CONDUCT another conversation...

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  she has had 42 years of training and indoctrination.

  i'm feeling sort of nervous, but also looking forward to it.

  this will be our second scheduled session together, and we never did agree on a topic.. i'm assuming she will come with an agenda and another prepared presentation.

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  I enjoy your posts about these interactions. I still find it amazing how your family treats you when you were only studying, not baptized!
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  Raising kids - JW mother, agnostic father

  by Zana in

  1. social
  2. family

  my wife and i have two wonderful children aged 1 and 3. i was raised as a lutheran but stopped believing in my late teen years.

  my wife is what i would call a liberal jw (yes, i believe such people exist .

  sooner or later our children will have questions about religion and the differences mom and dad show towards it.

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  Lucky72, I see you don't post often, but when you do it belongs on the BEST OF!! Wow! One of the most practical, realistic posts I've ever read about growing up in a divided home. Congrats on getting out.

  Realities of growing up in a divided home :(
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  Raising kids - JW mother, agnostic father

  by Zana in

  1. social
  2. family

  my wife and i have two wonderful children aged 1 and 3. i was raised as a lutheran but stopped believing in my late teen years.

  my wife is what i would call a liberal jw (yes, i believe such people exist .

  sooner or later our children will have questions about religion and the differences mom and dad show towards it.

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  Search "The Prodigal Son" dvd and you'll get a JW approved video that portrays what you're up against.
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  how long before you felt refreshed and new?

  by losingit in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  waking up from jw-land is an extremely exhausting process.

  about 3 years ago, i attended a month-long institute for grad school students.

  during this time, i was surrounded by people from all over the united states and had active, deep conversations with so many about personal topics, such as religion and divorce.

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  When I need humor, old Friends episodes never fail me. I hope things impRove soon for you.
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  Ahhh Dagnabbit

  by Jon Preston in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well afyer two months i get a message from an elder wanting to go out in service a few nights a week and to hang out more....i must now be labelled in the spiritually weak and reach out to group in my hall.

  my hall is very nice and so are the people but dagnabbit i hate small towns.... i wonder if i should say no or just nite the bullet on behalf of our fade...hmm decisions.

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  Gypsy Sam

  I recently learned how to block calls. It has been delightful to no longer worry about if I will be contacted by elders :)
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  Raising kids - JW mother, agnostic father

  by Zana in

  1. social
  2. family

  my wife and i have two wonderful children aged 1 and 3. i was raised as a lutheran but stopped believing in my late teen years.

  my wife is what i would call a liberal jw (yes, i believe such people exist .

  sooner or later our children will have questions about religion and the differences mom and dad show towards it.

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  Gypsy Sam

  Jgnat is right on queue.

  This became an exhausting and annoying issue for me as some teens wouldn't associate with others, if they had already "judged" them to be weak. (I have a 16 year old)

  For example, I had a teen (friends daughter) unwittingly comment that she wasn't comfortable at an event as some of the JW's were not good influences. I had learned TTATT yet, but was already thinking, so I asked what she meant. She commented that they weren't baptized and she was, so she needed to watch her association more. They were "too worldly". Keep in mind, these were all 13-15 year old girls. My daughter was 14 at the time and the other teen didn't realize my daughter wasn't baptized either.

  My parents were always quizzing my daughter as to if she had commented at the meeting, was she out in service Saturday, had she been "mini pioneering" during tract work...on and on.

  JW kids can almost never please their parents. I was valedectorian and pioneered straight out of high school. My parents still managed to be disappointed and wonder where they went wrong in raising me. My brother had a similar situation and married "in the truth". He's extremely active on RBC and switched halls to help a hall in need. However, he married a sister who had previously been married, which to JW parents of a virgin son, was a huge disappointment. Now she's in college, so they see her as "worldly" and since she's not pioneering that's another mark against her. (I'd say she's a liberal JW, too). It doesn't matter that the two of them are happily married and financially stable.

  edited - my daughter did go through a period where she seemed into JW world, which was great at the time. Now that we are both awake, she told me she never believed it. She just went along to make me happy and knew how disappointed in her I'd be if she didn't follow the religion.

  No child should have to feel that a parents love is conditional on a religious belief.